plwop

Anonymous asked:

In a hospital, one woman just had a miscarriage at 16 weeks gestation and is getting a D&E. She is visibly upset. Another woman has just had an abortion at 16 weeks gestation because of simple inconvenience. Would you tell them both that neither of their fetuses were babies, "suck it up" to the first woman and "good job" to the second? Or would you tell them both something different... "I'm sorry" to the first and "You did the right thing" to the second? If you choose the second option, explain.

plwop answered:

Inflammatory much?

The reason a woman has an abortion is none of mine (and by extension, none of your) business. Whom are you to judge if it was a ‘simple inconvenience’ or not? Pregnancy is not a ‘simple inconvenience’.

my god, Shannon is getting defensive. Go back and cry to Carl David, hon. 

plwop

Anonymous asked:

I have a question... on that post from Pro-Lifers Against Modern-day Baal Worship... how did you know that the admin's name is Carl David. Stalk much?

plwop answered:

He has posted his name before. It is not stalking if you post the information in public. If you (general you) are worried about being ‘stalked’ it is best to re-consider the information you are posting to the Internet at large. 

Man, Carl David is paranoid. 

Stupidity is what fuels the pro-life movement. This woman, Jaime, tried to take an argument over Planned Parenthood being as evil as Nazis to some sort of weird conclusion about fetuses feeling pain at 12 weeks based on what she thinks? I wouldn’t know, she provided only one flawed link and nothing else but a personal anecdote; presumably she did not read the journal article nor the slate article, both of which were not hard to understand. 

Let’s recap: Quit telling us that the Holocaust is the same as abortion, pro-lifers. It isn’t. It was more awful than anything you, as a human, can fathom. 

Here are the links I used. Read yourself, if you’re curious. 

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Sira

what being pro-choice means

- you support women choosing the best choice for them when it comes to pregnancy

- you support abortions being available in the event that pregnancy becomes a life threatening situation

- you do not want politicians interfering in the exam room

- you believe consent to sex is not necessarily consent to pregnancy, and that never consenting to sex (rape) should not have to end in a pregnancy and baby that you don’t want.

- it can mean embracing one choice for yourself while maintaining that everyone should be allowed to make their own choices

What it doesn’t mean: 

- advocating “killing all babies” 

- harming mother and child by pushing a specific choice towards them, no matter which choice it is

- hating pregnancy

- trying to let rapists off the hook

- controlling men’s bodies

- accepting that there is no scientific proof that life begins at any set point because of the different meanings of existence and consciousness

 

elephantsface
elephantsface:

plwop:

elephantsface:

southern-feminism:


what

at least 14 people believed this

and the best part is

anti-choicers are always accusing US of using “propaganda”



Guys, believe whatever you want about abortion, but Planned Parenthood is a business, and businesses cost money to run. An abortion costs “$300–$950 in the first trimester” alone. Quotas make sense, for a clinic to stay open, it needs to bring in a certain amount of revenue, that includes abortions. I don’t know if it’s true or not,but it’s not crazy.

PP is a non-profit organization, not a for-profit.
Brobie

Sure but this doesn’t mean that it’s a charitable organization doing work solely for the good of man/womankind. A nonprofit can still make money. Goodwill, for example, does great things for a community, but they still make tons of money. Businesses take money to run regardless of how they declare their organization on a tax form.

It’s still crazy to say they need X number of abortions, especially because their abortion costs are based on sliding scale of affordability. Revenue that needs to be brought in, maybe, but not quotas. PP is separated into state/areas, then local clinics. The area offices are giving the clinics some fundraising goals, I am sure, because they have plenty of fundraising staff that oversee donations and large gifts.
Also, many PPs don’t even OFFER abortions; they offer bare minimum services like STD testing and birth control. The most feasible thing would be a revenue target for clinics but even that is not going to be exact depending on fundraising. 
I’d post this to PLWOP but I want Brobie to be given the chance to address this ridiculousness. 
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Sira

elephantsface:

plwop:

elephantsface:


southern-feminism
:

what

at least 14 people believed this

and the best part is

anti-choicers are always accusing US of using “propaganda”

Guys, believe whatever you want about abortion, but Planned Parenthood is a business, and businesses cost money to run. An abortion costs “$300$950 in the first trimester” alone. Quotas make sense, for a clinic to stay open, it needs to bring in a certain amount of revenue, that includes abortions. I don’t know if it’s true or not,but it’s not crazy.

PP is a non-profit organization, not a for-profit.

Brobie

Sure but this doesn’t mean that it’s a charitable organization doing work solely for the good of man/womankind. A nonprofit can still make money. Goodwill, for example, does great things for a community, but they still make tons of money. Businesses take money to run regardless of how they declare their organization on a tax form.

It’s still crazy to say they need X number of abortions, especially because their abortion costs are based on sliding scale of affordability. Revenue that needs to be brought in, maybe, but not quotas. 

PP is separated into state/areas, then local clinics. The area offices are giving the clinics some fundraising goals, I am sure, because they have plenty of fundraising staff that oversee donations and large gifts.

Also, many PPs don’t even OFFER abortions; they offer bare minimum services like STD testing and birth control. The most feasible thing would be a revenue target for clinics but even that is not going to be exact depending on fundraising. 

I’d post this to PLWOP but I want Brobie to be given the chance to address this ridiculousness. 

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Sira

Seriously, if you’re pro-life and pro-motherhood and pro-family, you better be pro-WIC and pro-SNAP and pro-Free/Reduced School Lunch and pro-ACA and pro-Medicaid. If you can’t agree with that and can’t be arsed to go try to establish a better program (no existing one does more to help moms, so don’t cite anything that currently exists) to help mothers, then you are not pro-life. Congratulations. 

Seriously, if you’re pro-life and pro-motherhood and pro-family, you better be pro-WIC and pro-SNAP and pro-Free/Reduced School Lunch and pro-ACA and pro-Medicaid. If you can’t agree with that and can’t be arsed to go try to establish a better program (no existing one does more to help moms, so don’t cite anything that currently exists) to help mothers, then you are not pro-life. Congratulations. 

If you don’t understand the phrase “Fight the patriarchy,” you might be too limited in your scope of knowledge. Intelligent people know both sides of the argument, no matter whether they’re for or against. Patriarchs aren’t patriarchy; it isn’t quite the same, no matter how you try to spin it. If you have the fruit already in the seed, should you be getting pregnant every time you menstruate? Finally, “the church”? Naive enough to believe everyone believes in the same church? This is basically all bullshit. If you don’t know what the patriarchy is; if you don’t know that we don’t all worship your church; I cannot let your ignorance make choices for my body. 

If you don’t understand the phrase “Fight the patriarchy,” you might be too limited in your scope of knowledge. Intelligent people know both sides of the argument, no matter whether they’re for or against. Patriarchs aren’t patriarchy; it isn’t quite the same, no matter how you try to spin it. 

If you have the fruit already in the seed, should you be getting pregnant every time you menstruate? 

Finally, “the church”? Naive enough to believe everyone believes in the same church? 

This is basically all bullshit. If you don’t know what the patriarchy is; if you don’t know that we don’t all worship your church; I cannot let your ignorance make choices for my body. 

plwop

Anonymous asked:

Yes. Just yes. What kills humans is comparable to what kills humans. Have a little bit of decency and respect, especially during these times

plwop answered:

If you think that a woman making a choice about her bodily autonomy is comparable to an oppressive dictator using chemical weapons on children, then you are seriously screwed up.

oh honey, no. pregnancy almost killed me as it does 1 in 6900 people; does that make it comparable to the holocaust? No. NEVER. You are a lying sack of shit if you say yes.

come off anon if you’re so proud of your stance. But really, you’re not, you are just a shitty person who likes to compare genocide with the termination of pregnancy. By the way, something like 30% of pregnancies are miscarried; if we included the number of abortions in that, since 95% of abortions are early enough to be considered miscarriages, I’m guessing that you should probably start talking to God or Mother Nature or whomever about all those “missing human lives” that would be gone either way.